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Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby funkykeyboard » 30 Sep 2017, 13:19

I got 1 of these from eBay,
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-DC-1-4-2- ... Ciid%253A1
and in that whole I want to screw in a nipple that you can plug a tube onto. What are they called so I can do a search on eBay please?

Done this before, but improved it now. When I have all the parts list down pat, I will do a description on here how to create this. Because, all the ones I have seen our 200 or £300 et cetera, and off the top of my head this should be no more than 30 quid.

Any advice appreciated, Tremulous Tetra. :-)
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Postby hank » 30 Sep 2017, 13:44

Search air line/ brake line hose fittings/adapters. ;)
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Postby Burgerman » 30 Sep 2017, 16:16

The first one was the correct 1/4 npt on the link above.
You need the correct tube size too. So probably 6mm or 1/4?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hose-Barb-fit ... Swr41XIJ~9

If you look around these are available in nylon, abs, etc too. More suitable for urine...
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Postby DaveRV8 » 30 Sep 2017, 23:10

If you look for 1/4npt to fuel or oil hose you will find lots of choice, some from the US, for example:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2pc-Plastic-1 ... SwzOxUWQRD
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby ex-Gooserider » 03 Oct 2017, 04:46

Remember that urine isn't just water - make sure the valve material is compatible with it and not going to get corroded... (I'd be more inclined to look for something in either stainless steel or plastic, as aluminum tends to corrode pretty easily...

Also keep in mind the need to be careful about infection prevention / control, you don't want the valve to become a reservoir for bacteria that could travel back up the system and give you a UTI...

Presumably you'd want to be able to flush the system out periodically with bleach if nothing else - and I know bleach and aluminum don't get along well, at least they don't in the world of swimming pools...

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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby tutatu » 11 Oct 2017, 20:29

Here's mine non-contact leg bag emptier

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Postby rustyjames » 11 Oct 2017, 23:33

Good job on that solenoid operated opener. I can manage manually emptying my leg bag by the flip valve. Here's the bag I use:

https://www.vitalitymedical.com/hollist ... gJuufD_BwE

I wear the bag on my upper thigh with a length of 3/8" flexible tubing connected to the flip valve. The tubing runs down to my footplate. I can open/close the valve thru my pants.
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Postby funkykeyboard » 12 Oct 2017, 21:12

how brilliant is that King tut. :clap private message due for more info about where you get the solenoid from. :worship
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Postby funkykeyboard » 12 Oct 2017, 21:26

so excited already emailed the company. I hope it's in the average wheelchair users price range. czy
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Postby Burgerman » 12 Oct 2017, 21:49

It will be about 750 dollars if its medical! :cussing banghead
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Postby rustyjames » 13 Oct 2017, 00:12

Yes, or about $7.50 if you can buy it on ebay!
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Postby woodygb » 13 Oct 2017, 08:13

An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field.
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby popschief » 13 Oct 2017, 17:00

Since I am constantly forgetting to drain urinal how about a bluetooth connection to a GPS app on my cell phone that opens the pinch valve when I am in the field out back. :geek: If you make it and get it approved for Medicare you could charge $950. czy

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Postby Burgerman » 13 Oct 2017, 18:44

Or a sensor that beeps when pressure exceeds say .5psi or whatever.
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Postby popschief » 13 Oct 2017, 19:33

NICE John. But at my age I'd be saying "what's that beeping sound?" :?

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Postby Burgerman » 13 Oct 2017, 21:11

OK... Connect sensor to one of those dog collars that gives the dog a shock to control it.

Wire sensor to the button on the remote controller, and leave it fixed under the chair.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electric-Shoc ... 0005.m1851

Put it on your wife as a reminder. She will then tell you when the leg bags full without fail.
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Postby popschief » 14 Oct 2017, 03:16

Well at my peril she already tells me when I come in for dinner from the shop. YOUR BAG IS FULL. :cussing
Oh I forgot. drunk2 Life is good and then we die. :lol:

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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby tutatu » 14 Oct 2017, 13:25

As I can see, model of my pinch valve is Bio-Chem 100P2NO24-06S 24 VDC, 1/4” I.D., 3/8” O.D.

I've found my on ebay. It's important to find 1/4” I.D., 3/8” O.D. which is I think the biggest bio-chem valve. Because of orifice flow.

I've found some pdf http://www.westernanalytical.com/pdf/POWER%20Valve%2002-11-08.pdf so you can see the sizes of the valves. I dont't know can it be ordered from their site.

for example here is one, but listing has ended.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bio-Chem-100P2N ... 7675.l2557
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby tutatu » 14 Oct 2017, 16:25

Sorry, 100P2NC24-06S 24 VDC - Normally Closed
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby funkykeyboard » 17 Oct 2017, 14:27

Looks like back to plan a/1 LOL

I thought I had found the distributor, apparently not. Pinch solenoid seem to be expensive, though they are the most hygienic. For most people price is going to be an issue. So these look like a good compromise.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/G1-4-Solenoid ... PM6oh7AhyQ

Thanks for everybody's advice so far, listened and learned.

Any advice appreciated, Tremulous Tetra. :-)
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Postby popschief » 17 Oct 2017, 16:30

Good price on those valves and 24 volt too. I wonder if the coil would heat up at that voltage.
Might want to keep away from skin. Then there's the gunk that would surely build up
possibly causing leakage. Not an issue with the pinch valve.

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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby funkykeyboard » 18 Oct 2017, 20:44

popschief wrote:Good price on those valves and 24 volt too. I wonder if the coil would heat up at that voltage.
Might want to keep away from skin. Then there's the gunk that would surely build up
possibly causing leakage. Not an issue with the pinch valve.

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I appreciate the input. To counter what you're saying, at that kind of price, they are throwaway. Use 1 as long as it works and throwaway.

My major concern is COST. So anybody can afford it. I'd afford to work throwaway that part.

My major concern with this methodology is what people have said about infection. What I used to do was flush it through every night with a bag of water. However from what people have said, probably better off with bleach. Realise this is a chore for your PA if you have one. But I can't see any work that way round (besides the pinch mechanism, which so far seems to be a fortune i.e. £174).

Any advice appreciated, Tremulous Tetra. :-)
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby funkykeyboard » 18 Oct 2017, 20:45

popschief wrote:Good price on those valves and 24 volt too. I wonder if the coil would heat up at that voltage.
Might want to keep away from skin. Then there's the gunk that would surely build up
possibly causing leakage. Not an issue with the pinch valve.

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oh yes, I got a 12 V version, because they are 12 V batteries on wheelchairs. Was that a mistake for some reason?

Any advice appreciated, Tremulous Tetra. :-)
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Dan » 18 Oct 2017, 21:25

Two 12V batteries in series = one 24V battery. But I think you can still run it of just one battery.
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 18 Oct 2017, 22:08

Not without damaging both every time you recharge. You really need 24v.
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 18 Oct 2017, 22:09

Not without damaging both every time you recharge. You really need 24v. Although it wont take much and used only occasionally. But still.
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby ex-Gooserider » 24 Oct 2017, 02:43

Or one could run it via a 24-12DC-DC converter, which wouldn't be to bad if the current requirement is low...

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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby funkykeyboard » 20 Nov 2017, 16:53

tutatu wrote:Here's mine non-contact leg bag emptier

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What voltage is that? How do you power it? Of the wheelchair battery, or stand-alone battery?

Any advice appreciated, Tremulous Tetra. :-)
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby funkykeyboard » 21 Nov 2017, 17:21

I have managed to locate in the UK firm that will supply 1 of these.
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It's a bit large. The price is about £70. And you know the Bluetooth controller but also prices about £90.

The one above is better, because it fits to your leg, and if your leg moves it doesn't matter. The one I have is too big to be fitted to the leg, and so would have to be fitted to the chair. If your leg moved too far, it may pull the tube out, and leave a leg bag to drain all over the floor. Problem.
However, it would make it easier to power supply it from the chair. Plus.

No idea how the other one the other fella had its powered.

Any advice appreciated, Tremulous Tetra. :-)
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